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very okay

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hi

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we're sitting here in the living room of

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the roaches and they all reportedly saw

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a flying saucer or I'm sorry a UFO of

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flying saucers one kind of UFO a few

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years ago and I'd like to find out a

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little information about it where you

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saw it when you saw it describe it so

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bury you and the clearest

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picture of it but what happened where

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where did you see it

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just kind of describe your experience

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for us well it was more than a few years

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ago it was more like 10 or 11.

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and we were coming from Fort Wayne we

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live in Arcola it's west of Fort Wayne

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and we were just coming into Arcola and

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we were with myself and two of my

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friends were coming home and we saw this

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like a blip in the sky

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and

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what we had known as far as helicopters

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and standard planes and such and we just

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sort of watched it and then

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joked around about what it might be and

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then sort of dropped the idea of it and

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I took this other friend of mine on home

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well you were in your car yes we were in

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our car you first saw it from your car

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right did you stop the car no

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because well it was just in a continuous

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motion and it seemed to fade off more to

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the West Was the object above you in

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front of you behind you I guess I'd be

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to the South be off to the left

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and above

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and my friend well he lived at the lake

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which was North the opposite direction

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was the object was

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and we dropped him off and came back

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and we got down to I guess his Arcola

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Road or Yellow River Road and the road I

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was coming on T's into this and the

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object was right straight

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in front of us I mean it's off in a

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distance but it was right there we had

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to see it

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and my brother was with me at the time

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and we comment on the fact that this

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isn't

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normal for what we know in a way of

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aircraft

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so being teenagers you know 15 16 17 or

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whatever we knew that no one would

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believe us so we stopped at the first

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neighbor that we came to

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and we call Mr Mrs Johnson out your two

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kids he said we'd like you to look at

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something

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and we told him what we saw and we point

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out where we were seeing the object and

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sure enough they saw the same thing the

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neighbors awesome yes

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and where where was the object at this

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time uh

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well it was still in the west or in the

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South but uh

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it was let's see

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it's hard to describe the direction

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because as far as them how far away your

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products

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I was in terms of miles but it's it was

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it's definitely rather large because it

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was still more or less still clear for

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as big as it was yeah so far away

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it was it was it high in the sky or did

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it seem to be close to the ground it was

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I'd say it was rather hot at the time

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and

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while

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and begin to lower and I was kind of

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excited about it so I left the Johnson

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Place it went on home and this was about

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a half a mile down the road got my folks

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my two sisters out

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and we

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just sit there and watched it for maybe

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I don't know 10 15 minutes more you know

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how much time has transpired from the

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time you first saw it in your car say to

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the time you went to the Johnsons

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and we watched it at home maybe for

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another 15 minutes after leaving

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Johnson's and then well we saw that

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it was sort of a cylinder type deal with

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window panes and had a

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green and red light I believe the top

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and it seemed to rotate because in the

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bottom there was a large Spotlight and

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every once while it would rotate

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or it was seen me rotating in a Flash

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onto the ground

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and you couldn't look directly at the

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light it was considerably bright it was

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like landing craft lights on a bigger

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airplane now when you were home inside

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how close was it what

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was it much closer at this point I mean

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it sounds as if you had a much better

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picture of it now well it had moved

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closer to both Johnson's and us like I

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said was only half a mile apart

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but it wasn't still in terms of miles

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away

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because when it disappeared it just went

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down behind there the Johnson's Barn

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and you can see it was off in the

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distance yet but it was so far off you

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know it was it went lower to just

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disappeared behind the barn

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but if if the object was behind the barn

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that's getting pretty close thing so it

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was a half mile from well they're in

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related well our house was a half mile

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from Johnson's

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but it's just like any other object it

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goes it could be off in a distance like

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going down over a hill you know it could

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be miles away but yet it could disappear

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like that and that's about the way this

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was so it seemed as if it was behind the

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Johnsons yes it just went down on the

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horizon I guess you'd say did it seem to

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be remaining stationary or was it moving

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at all during this time

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uh the house slow turn to it and this

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well that's the thing that caught right

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at first because when we first noticed

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it when we were coming from Fort Wayne

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it would be stationary

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and all of a sudden a drop

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and seen accelerated well like I said

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speeds that we didn't realize what

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seemed to be possible would take off in

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horizontal directions vertical

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directions and just stop and go at will

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so it could go backwards frontwards to

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the side climb and drive right

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did it have any of the features we

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associate with normal aircraft like

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wings propellers not that we can make

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out it like I said it looks cylinder to

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me and it seemed to have two maybe three

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levels to it and because the center of

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it seemed to have what looked like

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conventional window panes and you can

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see that there were lights on the inside

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or what seemed to be lights coming from

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inside because it was illuminated and at

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the top there were the two

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other lights the red and the green and

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at the bottom was the spotlight there

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may have been two spotlights I don't

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know

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do you feel as if it as if it were

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following you

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no not really because

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it continued in what I believe its own

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pattern straight going street lights I

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guess would be West

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whereas when we turned off and went to

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the lake to take my friend home there it

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was and it wasn't exactly as if it was

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following us North when we turned

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because it was their

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where it was when we left it

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but apparently it was in your range of

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vision for quite a long time yes so that

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that would mean that it was

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not moving

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it were moving at a great speed it would

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have been out of your vision well we're

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only talking from when we first cited it

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our home was only two miles out of our

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Cola and we was right on the outskirts

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of our close we're only talking at the

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most three miles between my first

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sighting and when we last saw it

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so about how many minutes then 10

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minutes as far as the total viewing of

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the object

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I'd save me for 20 minutes

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in 20 minutes but still if it were even

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flying at the rate of a normal aircraft

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it would have been out of sight

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before 20 minutes wouldn't it probably

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if it would have continued in One

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Direction but like I said it it would go

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the object was in a general area oh yes

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for quite some time apparently we stayed

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in the same area we just go back and

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forth yeah that okay that's what I was

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getting at that it was staying in the

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same area going up and down like it

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would fly into our coal and then come

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back out to our house then go back into

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our call and then come back out

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now as it was moving did it seem to be

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moving at a great rate of speed

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when we saw when I saw it when I was

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coming home it did but after we when we

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were standing on watching it it seemed

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to just be more or less hovering

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that's why I said it seemed to rotate

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and once while this white light would

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flash around on the ground and you

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couldn't see it

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they said you never at any point got a

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close-up view of it

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right because this was it was probably

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nine o'clock at night it was in the

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summertime it was still sort of life and

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yet it was on the verge of Darkness too

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but you travel this road often or at the

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time did you travel a lot oh yes quite

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often every day had you ever before seen

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anything like this no have you ever

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let's clear up another Point did you

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report it I think you said you did not

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we did you felt you did yeah we called

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Bearfield

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and the neighbors called the Sheriff's

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Department

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and there was no reported citing of any

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object that was so supposedly no

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aircraft in that type in the area as far

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as a helicopter or anything like that

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goes either yeah did barefield see

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anything in the radar no and they said

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there was nothing there's nothing in

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there and what kind of response did you

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get from the authorities when you called

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this was in 65 or 66 and everything can

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you remember the year yeah it was

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65. yeah there was a famous sighting in

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New Hampshire during that time I wonder

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if it was even the same day or the same

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year

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all I remember was the 65 it must have

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been June or July because it's pretty

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warm

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you know that was when it was a racial

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sightings and everybody seemed to think

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they saw one everybody was disclaiming

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against swamp gas and balloons and every

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other thing because if both of you see

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anything that you perhaps left out or

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your own impression of it

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well um

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I remember one thing that like it would

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go towards Arcola and then there was

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like a wooded area right there just

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outside of Arcola and then come around

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and and it would disappear from sight

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from us and then it looked like it would

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come up over these trees and look like

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it'd have like a big blinding headlight

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and it was Brian it looks like it looked

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like it was really close but yet it it

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took a while for it to get to our house

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you know so we figured it was you know

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really far off but the light was really

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bright it was blind that's probably the

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most distinctive Impressions you had it

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was a blinding headlight

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on the object the windows really got me

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though because you could really see the

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window so like there was two feet in

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front of you the windows did

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despite the fact that it was quite some

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distance yeah it was you could really

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see the lineup you could really see the

284
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windows on it okay how can you account

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for that a normal aircraft for example

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if it were

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a half mile away in the air I think it

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would be difficult to

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pinpoint a window for example

290
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you couldn't do it there's something

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Illuminating from it that seemed to

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magnify it that brought it sharper into

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your focus no I just feel it was a large

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aircraft and it was illuminated from the

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inside you couldn't see anybody inside

296
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like you see was the windows we need

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people or anything like that let's say

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we saw an object

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and that was it but

300
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okay we have three distinct things

301
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correct we have a blinding headlight and

302
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a very very bright headlight or

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Spotlight of some kind we have very uh

304
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clear view of Windows that was your main

305
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impression and you mentioned also the

306
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the red and green lights on it now these

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were in addition to the spotlight or

308
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were these the spotlight doesn't these

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are what appear to be on top of the

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craft they were on top they had a

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headlight type thing coming from the

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front of it and it was cylindering well

313
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the headlight seemed to be hanging from

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below a wooden to me it didn't seem as

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if it was attached right to the front as

316
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if you went on a vehicle or a chopper or

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something like that it hung

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from underneath of it

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the spotlight in the headlight was I

320
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think were like the same light at times

321
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it would just looked like it was hanging

322
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straight down but other times it looked

323
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like it was coming you know straight out

324
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from the side like on a turn and it

325
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would come back up up by the trees you

326
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could look like at a headlight yeah did

327
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you both see the red and green lights

328
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yes I did they were very sharp they were

329
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unmistakably ready this was in addition

330
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to the Spotlight right and did you see

331
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the windows also

332
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but you know

333
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yeah

334
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so that the three of your in agreement

335
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with what you saw

336
00:14:01,990 --> 00:14:00,480
frequently people will you know seeing

337
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the same thing or how different

338
00:14:06,769 --> 00:14:04,260
descriptions of it this would imply that

339
00:14:08,810 --> 00:14:06,779
you all got a very good view and a

340
00:14:12,290 --> 00:14:08,820
fairly consistent view rather than just

341
00:14:14,870 --> 00:14:12,300
a glimpse or one sharp view that lasted

342
00:14:17,569 --> 00:14:14,880
for perhaps a second you you had time

343
00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:17,579
enough to see this object and even to

344
00:14:23,210 --> 00:14:20,160
study it I think so is there anything

345
00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:23,220
else about about it that you can

346
00:14:28,129 --> 00:14:25,500
remember anything else that it did

347
00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:28,139
anything else on it

348
00:14:32,990 --> 00:14:30,720
anything that the lights perhaps did

349
00:14:36,470 --> 00:14:33,000
like the red and green lights did they

350
00:14:38,449 --> 00:14:36,480
fly shining off or did they stay on no

351
00:14:42,110 --> 00:14:38,459
to me the lights are on top of the craft

352
00:14:44,090 --> 00:14:42,120
were on at all times and the beacon or

353
00:14:46,189 --> 00:14:44,100
whatever the white line whatever it was

354
00:14:48,050 --> 00:14:46,199
on the bottom of the craft seemed to be

355
00:14:49,370 --> 00:14:48,060
on all times but it just wasn't facing

356
00:14:52,370 --> 00:14:49,380
us at the times because you can see

357
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where it might be shining off in a

358
00:14:56,750 --> 00:14:55,139
distance it gave me one of it wasn't not

359
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facing us it gave the appearance of the

360
00:15:01,730 --> 00:15:00,060
Lincoln Tower light shining off like a

361
00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:01,740
beacon through clouds that type of fact

362
00:15:06,769 --> 00:15:04,380
did this light ever hit you directly to

363
00:15:11,030 --> 00:15:06,779
the point where you had to turn your

364
00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:11,040
head no no but it was very bright very

365
00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:14,399
yeah extremely bright

366
00:15:18,590 --> 00:15:16,320
and it just

367
00:15:20,689 --> 00:15:18,600
lit up the sky

368
00:15:22,910 --> 00:15:20,699
I wouldn't say go so far to say it lit

369
00:15:25,189 --> 00:15:22,920
up the sky but whatever it was shining

370
00:15:27,410 --> 00:15:25,199
almost definitely lit up yeah it was

371
00:15:29,509 --> 00:15:27,420
yeah to be more precise than the the

372
00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:29,519
area that it was in lit up as a result

373
00:15:35,829 --> 00:15:32,160
of this bright spotlight

374
00:15:40,030 --> 00:15:35,839
and yet you were able to see the entire

375
00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:40,040
object to describe it as cylinder well

376
00:15:44,870 --> 00:15:42,720
to say that we could see that I could

377
00:15:47,389 --> 00:15:44,880
see the entire object isn't really

378
00:15:49,009 --> 00:15:47,399
correct because it just from the lights

379
00:15:50,090 --> 00:15:49,019
that were on it

380
00:15:51,230 --> 00:15:50,100
you know I could see it there was a

381
00:15:52,850 --> 00:15:51,240
light on the bottom the bright light on

382
00:15:53,689 --> 00:15:52,860
the bottom the green and red light at

383
00:15:56,449 --> 00:15:53,699
the top

384
00:15:58,370 --> 00:15:56,459
and the fluorescent type effect or the

385
00:16:00,110 --> 00:15:58,380
eliminating effect in the center and the

386
00:16:02,210 --> 00:16:00,120
window pane effect

387
00:16:04,009 --> 00:16:02,220
and the way it could turn

388
00:16:08,449 --> 00:16:04,019
I

389
00:16:10,430 --> 00:16:08,459
mean that's the only the only shade that

390
00:16:12,350 --> 00:16:10,440
I could visualize it ever being it

391
00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:12,360
looked like it was silver in color

392
00:16:19,129 --> 00:16:14,880
silver

393
00:16:21,889 --> 00:16:19,139
and I I really didn't notice that

394
00:16:23,689 --> 00:16:21,899
you mentioned something else I think we

395
00:16:27,470 --> 00:16:23,699
should pick up on you mentioned levels

396
00:16:30,050 --> 00:16:27,480
or layers yes yeah it seemed to

397
00:16:32,210 --> 00:16:30,060
because the

398
00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,220
Craft Like I said had the lights top the

399
00:16:37,550 --> 00:16:34,800
bottom and the panes the pains seemed to

400
00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:37,560
divide it I mean the distance from the

401
00:16:41,569 --> 00:16:39,180
top where the lights were

402
00:16:43,129 --> 00:16:41,579
to the window panes and from the window

403
00:16:45,530 --> 00:16:43,139
panes of the white light at the bottom

404
00:16:48,710 --> 00:16:45,540
seem to be

405
00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:48,720
just really a large gap I mean so much

406
00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:50,220
of a gap that it couldn't possibly be

407
00:16:55,910 --> 00:16:53,040
one you know like one large shell I mean

408
00:16:57,410 --> 00:16:55,920
let's pretty tall or at elevators or

409
00:16:59,689 --> 00:16:57,420
something I don't know but

410
00:17:01,370 --> 00:16:59,699
do you have an approximate size of the

411
00:17:04,929 --> 00:17:01,380
object I mean

412
00:17:07,370 --> 00:17:04,939
even let's say very big

413
00:17:10,130 --> 00:17:07,380
small and from what you're saying it was

414
00:17:11,870 --> 00:17:10,140
very big I would say our object was

415
00:17:15,169 --> 00:17:11,880
extremely large

416
00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:15,179
I don't know how it compared to a 747 or

417
00:17:18,049 --> 00:17:16,079
anything like that it's been

418
00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:18,059
considerable time since I've seen it

419
00:17:22,490 --> 00:17:21,600
but I would say it was it was larger

420
00:17:24,530 --> 00:17:22,500
than

421
00:17:26,990 --> 00:17:24,540
most conventional aircraft yeah we need

422
00:17:28,189 --> 00:17:27,000
something to to compare it to now it's

423
00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:28,199
good

424
00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:35,570
can you remember anything that they said

425
00:17:39,950 --> 00:17:37,679
when you called it in

426
00:17:42,770 --> 00:17:39,960
and first of all how many people saw

427
00:17:44,930 --> 00:17:42,780
this the three of you that the Johnsons

428
00:17:47,630 --> 00:17:44,940
Mr Mr Johnson that's five two other

429
00:17:49,730 --> 00:17:47,640
brothers two other brothers no parents

430
00:17:53,029 --> 00:17:49,740
and your parents so nine their two

431
00:17:55,789 --> 00:17:53,039
children yeah okay 11 people then 11

432
00:17:57,529 --> 00:17:55,799
people and they all would verify this

433
00:18:00,169 --> 00:17:57,539
that they saw it and they would all

434
00:18:03,289 --> 00:18:00,179
agree and I assume you've all talked

435
00:18:05,330 --> 00:18:03,299
about this is to watch yourself well

436
00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:05,340
John since I haven't seen them since I

437
00:18:10,970 --> 00:18:08,160
moved has been probably six seven years

438
00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:10,980
but I would like to hope that the thing

439
00:18:15,169 --> 00:18:12,960
that they would verify it because they

440
00:18:17,690 --> 00:18:15,179
did see it okay that's a sizable number

441
00:18:20,270 --> 00:18:17,700
of people I mean 11 people to see the

442
00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:20,280
same object at the same time did you

443
00:18:24,110 --> 00:18:22,140
tell the authorities all this did you go

444
00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:24,120
into as much detail as we're going into

445
00:18:29,870 --> 00:18:27,840
today no we just simply called Fairfield

446
00:18:31,370 --> 00:18:29,880
to find if there was any sightings of

447
00:18:33,650 --> 00:18:31,380
any or if there was any aircraft in the

448
00:18:36,049 --> 00:18:33,660
area they said no that was more or less

449
00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:36,059
conversation we hung up and supposedly

450
00:18:40,330 --> 00:18:38,160
the neighbors called the sheriff to find

451
00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:40,340
out if anybody else reported anything

452
00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:43,440
and he said well we don't think so and

453
00:18:46,430 --> 00:18:44,640
that was about the size of that we

454
00:18:49,310 --> 00:18:46,440
talked to share with yourself no we did

455
00:18:52,190 --> 00:18:49,320
not neither of you sure so you called

456
00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:52,200
two people or you called Bearfield and

457
00:18:55,850 --> 00:18:54,000
the sheriff was called by somebody else

458
00:18:59,210 --> 00:18:55,860
yes

459
00:19:00,250 --> 00:18:59,220
had anybody else reported seeing this on

460
00:19:02,270 --> 00:19:00,260
that day

461
00:19:04,370 --> 00:19:02,280
knocked my knowledge no one's ever

462
00:19:07,789 --> 00:19:04,380
knowledge nobody else had called in with

463
00:19:10,430 --> 00:19:07,799
a sighting Fairfield had not tracked it

464
00:19:13,549 --> 00:19:10,440
on the radar no they said they hadn't

465
00:19:16,909 --> 00:19:13,559
they said they had not

466
00:19:19,370 --> 00:19:16,919
and did barefield did the people at

467
00:19:20,810 --> 00:19:19,380
Bearfield just kind of dismiss you or is

468
00:19:24,049 --> 00:19:20,820
that around your

469
00:19:26,029 --> 00:19:24,059
hallucinating kind of well we never when

470
00:19:29,330 --> 00:19:26,039
we called we didn't really say hey we've

471
00:19:31,130 --> 00:19:29,340
seen a UFO we just called and asked are

472
00:19:33,770 --> 00:19:31,140
there aircraft in the area

473
00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:33,780
and we specified here it was you know

474
00:19:40,430 --> 00:19:36,840
concerned about and they said no did you

475
00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:40,440
tell them in any way what you saw no you

476
00:19:44,690 --> 00:19:41,940
did not

477
00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:44,700
but when the sheriff was called what was

478
00:19:48,289 --> 00:19:46,020
he told

479
00:19:50,270 --> 00:19:48,299
that you saw an object well we're not

480
00:19:51,169 --> 00:19:50,280
exactly sure of that because we didn't

481
00:19:54,529 --> 00:19:51,179
call

482
00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:54,539
it was as far as a note with Mr Johnson

483
00:20:03,890 --> 00:20:01,450
so as far as you know really you you you

484
00:20:06,110 --> 00:20:03,900
didn't really report it to Bear field

485
00:20:09,310 --> 00:20:06,120
you simply asked if they had spotted

486
00:20:13,010 --> 00:20:09,320
anything unusual on their radar okay

487
00:20:15,470 --> 00:20:13,020
would would you say that you're

488
00:20:17,330 --> 00:20:15,480
convinced are you convinced that what

489
00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:17,340
you saw was not

490
00:20:22,029 --> 00:20:18,960
an aircraft

491
00:20:26,090 --> 00:20:22,039
that is a normal aircraft yes

492
00:20:28,909 --> 00:20:26,100
no I don't think it was an airplane oh

493
00:20:30,049 --> 00:20:28,919
we know today I mean it may be some may

494
00:20:32,090 --> 00:20:30,059
have been something that the government

495
00:20:34,850 --> 00:20:32,100
government had as far as experimental

496
00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:34,860
they want to admit to but it's

497
00:20:38,330 --> 00:20:36,720
Iowa steaks about anything in the fact

498
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:38,340
that it was not anything that I've ever

499
00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:40,080
seen and I spent four years in the

500
00:20:45,710 --> 00:20:42,240
military and I've seen a lot of aircraft

501
00:20:47,210 --> 00:20:45,720
and what branch of the military Navy in

502
00:20:49,610 --> 00:20:47,220
Okay so

503
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:49,620
are you convinced that it was not a norm

504
00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:52,320
where I'm from I am convinced it wasn't

505
00:20:56,510 --> 00:20:54,960
nice I haven't seen any anything like it

506
00:20:59,570 --> 00:20:56,520
since or

507
00:21:02,330 --> 00:20:59,580
even compare in size or and looks or the

508
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:02,340
lights it had on it or anything are you

509
00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:04,559
convinced yes

510
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:06,360
it's like my brother said I don't I

511
00:21:10,370 --> 00:21:07,520
don't

512
00:21:12,110 --> 00:21:10,380
necessarily think it was a UFO from

513
00:21:14,090 --> 00:21:12,120
outer space or anything I think it was

514
00:21:17,930 --> 00:21:14,100
more probably our own

515
00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:17,940
than something from well why why do you

516
00:21:23,570 --> 00:21:21,600
think that I know well because do you

517
00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:23,580
believe in the possibility of aircraft

518
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:26,280
oh yes if we can travel to outer space

519
00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:27,600
and other plants why can't they come

520
00:21:34,430 --> 00:21:28,380
here

521
00:21:36,590 --> 00:21:34,440
planets yeah why not okay possible but

522
00:21:39,230 --> 00:21:36,600
you're you you think there is the

523
00:21:41,930 --> 00:21:39,240
possibility of aircraft from another

524
00:21:43,730 --> 00:21:41,940
planet UFO but in this particular case

525
00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:43,740
you're more inclined to think that it

526
00:21:48,830 --> 00:21:46,500
was a United States yeah kind of

527
00:21:50,690 --> 00:21:48,840
experimental plane or aircraft well I

528
00:21:51,950 --> 00:21:50,700
just myself I just feel that could be a

529
00:21:54,049 --> 00:21:51,960
possibility

530
00:21:56,570 --> 00:21:54,059
from the way it maneuvered I feel the

531
00:21:58,430 --> 00:21:56,580
United States had anything like that it

532
00:22:00,590 --> 00:21:58,440
had been out long it had been out since

533
00:22:03,169 --> 00:22:00,600
that sighting yeah we've there's been

534
00:22:06,590 --> 00:22:03,179
nothing come out and I myself feel that

535
00:22:08,210 --> 00:22:06,600
it was a UFO okay but you you would be

536
00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:08,220
more inclined to think that it was just

537
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:10,559
some kind of experimental aircraft well

538
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:13,440
it could be it could be okay you're not

539
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:16,799
you would all say it could be but you're

540
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:18,960
you would believe that it's a

541
00:22:23,450 --> 00:22:21,840
UFO oh it's too big UFO if it was

542
00:22:25,130 --> 00:22:23,460
something from our government because if

543
00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:25,140
it was it never brought it out so it's

544
00:22:28,370 --> 00:22:27,240
still classes UFO yeah that's a good

545
00:22:35,930 --> 00:22:28,380
point

546
00:22:42,169 --> 00:22:38,870
so that in closing we could say that

547
00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:42,179
from every way that we describe an

548
00:22:47,630 --> 00:22:43,080
object

549
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:47,640
size the apparatus connected with it the

550
00:22:53,289 --> 00:22:51,120
lights the red green lights it's flying

551
00:22:56,690 --> 00:22:53,299
maneuverability it's going up and down

552
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:56,700
sideways back and forth from all these

553
00:23:03,169 --> 00:23:00,240
different things it did not fit in any

554
00:23:05,690 --> 00:23:03,179
way any conventional kind of aircraft

555
00:23:08,990 --> 00:23:05,700
that you have ever seen that's correct